we're mad at them for protectionist policies, but george w. bush put limits on products, but we allow the currency to get weak? >> yeah, well, china's run the largest program of manufacturing subsidies in the world, and they are not compliant with the world trade organization obligations. it's been encouraging property piracy matters. the international trade commission in 2009 said china's ip violations cost businesses $48 billion, and if china enforced intellectual property laws, american businesses would have employed 923,000 more americans in the united states. china has been the subject of the wto complaints, and it's lost all of them. clearly, we have a big issue with them. dennis: okay. someone to combat them, and i have not heard much from either side. thank you for being with us donald chang and donald gross. >> thank you. >> debate this, labors, unions, collective bargaining, brett mcmahon of miller and long destruction, and bill dyne author of "state of the unions" here at noon eastern. cheryl: live at reagan airport in washington, d